BORN AGAIN-77 Going on 46


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To all the People following this Blog, Peace be with you!

Today is my 46th Birthday, my Spiritual Birthday, the Day I came aware and alive to God living in me.

In practical terms, Born Again means I, and everybody else, has the same chance to start a New Life all over again, learning to identify and grow in the Ways of the Spirit, letting go of the self-centred, money loving and serving ways of this Material World Day by Day, in every Day called Today. It’s a life long Journey leaning, Practising the Faith, making mistakes, but not quitting and enduring to the End!

The last article posted was just over a year ago. I would expect most of the People getting the email notice of this addition probably forgot they were following my Blog. I’m sorry about that. To be honest, I became discouraged in keeping it up. Views were doubling from year to year until Google changed their algorithm and suddenly, views took a 2/3 drop, going down year after year. Before the Google algorithm change, my Blog appeared in the results of so many Google searches where People didn’t know it existed but many clicked on it.

This is a sample of some of those search terms, canada, liberty bell, armageddon, angels of god, gulf war, eisenhower, venice beach, skies, angel with sword, damascus, pope paul vi, jesus, calgary, all you need is love, st. john’s newfoudland, marijuana, 1st gulf war, sodom, montreal, revelation, papal crown, jewish temple, mother teresa, hot sun, 1973 oil crisis, predator drone, cold war weapons, military industrial complex, antichrist vs jesus, and so many other Google search terms. That doesn’t happen anymore.

As an example, in my own estimation, one of the most significant of my posts is the article SIGNS OF THE TIMES. If you search Google for those terms, with their advanced search engine, it doesn’t even show up in the results. Searching for “rayjc signs of the times” it’s the 1st result. It’s not that Google banned me. Anyone knowing my name and searching for “ray joseph cormier” with the quotes, will find 30 pages of results exclusively on my Internet footprint, and that’s only half of the places where I commented.

It’s not that I’ve given up the struggle. I’ve made over 8000 comments in The Washington Post alone, analyzing significant unfolding News events, and with the passage of Time, on average, my analysis was more accurate and prescient than many paid Professionals. I comment in many other News sites Daily.

Where I think this world is at in General Terms by the Revelation in the details, is described by these words in the Revelation,

And the NATIONS WERE ANGRY AND YOUR WRATH is come, and the TIME of the dead, (spiritually dead) that they should be judged, and that you should give reward to your servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear your name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth. Revelation 11:18

Therefore rejoice, you heavens, and you that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having GREAT WRATH, because he knows that he has but a short time. Revelation 12:12
Everyone can see the WRATH and ANGER growing and unfolding in our World, especially in the US, but who can discern WHICH WRATH IS WHICH?

For Today, this is what I see that concerns me.

The Israeli Star of David is on the back of EVERY American Dollar.

The Bible warns, ‘Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.’

Is there is any significance to the fact, Jews hold all the Top National Security Positions in the Biden Cabinet?
My Faith in Jesus, King of the Jews, makes me a Jew.
Still, I have to be mindful of Revelation 2:9 & 3:9.

This is at a Time when Israel wants the US to fight it’s War with Iran, and told Biden, if he returns to the Iran Nuclear Deal, Israel will attack Iran without the US, blowing up the recent Trump-Arab-Israeli Peace Treaties/Arms Deals, and the entire Middle East, as the Revelation of Jesus Christ records will happen during the Revelation, ‘And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.’

Armageddon was derived from Har Megiddo located in Occupied Palestine when Jesus walked throughout the Land.
Israel disappeared as a kingdom some 700 years earlier.

Armageddon/Har Megiddo still exists but is now under the control of Israel re-created from the Bible, and 2000 years later, the Occupation of Palestine is still an unresolved open wound in the Middle East and the World.

Biden already laid down the gauntlet with Putin, by appointing Victoria Nuland to his Cabinet in the Position of Secretary of State for Political Affairs.

Americans have short memories with the rapidly changing News Cycle.

It was the Obama/Biden/Clinton/ Nuland regime that orchestrated the 2014 Coup
d’Etat in Ukraine, changing the Russian friendly government the majority Russian speaking Ukrainians in Crimea and East Ukraine VOTED FOR, for a Neo-Nazi anti-Russian government.

It was that US aggression that precipitated the rebellion in the East, and moved Russia to annex Crimea that was part of Russia from 1778 to 1954, when it was turned over to Ukraine Administration as an Autonomous Region, when Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union.
The Russian annexation of Crimea is more Legitimate than the US approved Israeli annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights.

The US has made regime change of governments it can’t control as American as Apple Pie.

The 2014 US orchestrated Coup in Ukraine was the FINAL STRAW for Putin, waking him up to realize it was futile trying to appease the US and the West for better Relations, when Russia would not be assimilated into the Western Orbit, unless it was willing to abandon it’s National Sovereignty, and become just another US Vassal State.

Then the US led Arms Race supplying more Weapons of War, Death and Destruction than Russia and China combined, would have no further Justification.

There’s no Justification for it anyway!
Fresh off his experience as Supreme Military Commander in WWII. General-President Eisenhower, the LAST Real Commander-in-Chief, at the Beginning of his Presidency in 1953 said,
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.
It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.
It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.
It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement.
We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat.
We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense.
Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a Cross of Iron.

General-President Eisenhower Cross of Iron speech, April 16, 1953

Those costs were when the US Defence Budget was only $60 BILLION. TODAY, it’s $740 BILLION!

After 8 years as President, Eisenhower had the same warning in his 1961 Military-Industrial Complex retirement speech,

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defence with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.”

Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

Who listens anymore?

Now even more will be required as Americans will have to face Joint Russia-China
retaliation against any US aggression pushing to that point of no return.
That RUDE awakening for Putin was what motivated him to enter the 2011 Syrian World War a year later, in 2015, and along with his Allies Assad and General Soleimani, STOPPED the 2001 US WAR PLAN in it’s tracks, to change the Assad government.

The US NEVER Learns from it’s delusions and mistakes.

Trump, the Law and Order Man, used US Troops like Common Thieves and a
Criminal Gang, already being in Syria in violation of International Law, and using them to STEAL Syria’s oil. Americans don’t care. The Biden Administration has not changed that.

They can’t see, if Trump can STEAL outright in a Foreign Land Americans don’t give attention to, it’s not beyond him to STEAL the US Election after the majority of American Voters fired him.

According to the whistle-blower, US General Wesley Clark revealed in 2007, BEFORE the demise of Libya and Syria in 2011, the US came out with WAR PLANS within 2 weeks of 9/11 to changing the regimes of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and at THE END, Iran.
Lebanon is now the latest failed State because of that 2001 US WAR PLAN.

There can be NO DOUBT Trump was following that 2001 US WAR PLAN, leading to THE END with IRAN. With Biden’s Jewish Dominated Cabinet, he will likely continue to follow that 2001 US WAR PLAN.

The Husband of the Vice-President is Jewish as are these People,
Secretary of the Treasury
Attorney General
Secretary of Homeland Security
Director of National Intelligence Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.
Secretary of State
Deputy Secretary of State
Secretary of State for Political Affairs
Office of Science and Technology Policy White House Chief of Staff

I just read about this 2nd tier staffing,
On Wednesday, Mother Jones and NBC News reported that a top Biden national security aide who is an expert on Russian cyber had given over half a million dollars to AIPAC in recent years through a family foundation. And the aide’s husband is on the AIPAC executive council in Baltimore.

AIPAC is of course the leading Israel lobby group, which supports everything the right wing Israeli government does, from persecuting Palestinians to threatening Iran.

The Destructive Plan Behind the Biden Russia Agenda

A Sorry Solipsistic Siren Song
Around him in his court some scribes he kept
Who with informal nicknames proved adept
At not reporting all the times he slept
Or all the tasks at which he proved inept
As war up on our napping nation crept

Our vain imposter in a bubble ruled
A people often and completely fooled
Rejoicing in a leader so unschooled
That when he tried to speak he merely drooled
While in Iraq blood splattered, spread, and pooled

He felt no urgent need to change or tack
Because his troops, not he, absorbed the flak
He vowed to never waver or turn back
His yokel yodel, yammering, and yak
Left no doubt that his skull contained a crack

He found the country’s magic credit card
Left lying in the country’s open yard
Which meant he’d caught the country off its guard
Which others, too, found scarcely very hard:
A haughty herd hoist by its own petard

For who had placed such emptiness on top?
Who harvested this hollow, stunted crop?
Who let an addict start who couldn’t stop?
Who’d rather drink a river than a drop
Who needed babysitters as a prop

It doesn’t look too good for Uncle Sam
Whose credit rating just received a slam
For gambling debts from gamblers on the lam
Most notably the chief commanding sham
Who has a brain that doesn’t weigh a gram

Now trapped within the web of lies he spun
More dangerous than Cheney with a gun
(Who, when he aims at quail, the lawyers run)
His bloody mess he aims to leave undone
Few lesser “leaders” breathe beneath the sun

The nightlight shining softly by his bed
Illuminates an empty sleeping head
His dreams result in many people dead
His ancestors now hide in shameful dread
Embarrassed by the fool their genes have bred

Yet no one seems to know just what to do
About a man who governs for the few
Who takes a jaunty jaded jaundiced view
Of those he sees as subjects he can screw
Or troops that he can bleed till they turn blue

His party and his pundits say they see
Some pants invisible to you and me
Which only those with his same pedigree
Would witness by imperial decree
Or, when so ordered, drop their own and pee

Not much is left of that proud liberty
That once Americans considered free
Now stolen by this spawn of larceny
Who stamps as “secret” his known perfidy
Who cannot face the truth, his enemy

He says we can’t be trusted if we know
What he has done and how he plans to blow
More billions causing needless blood to flow
With nothing ever offered up to show
Why he should not up on the scaffold go

A necktie party, yes, might do the trick
Some tar and feathers, too, for George and Dick
Who’ve earned their names: the Codpiece and the Prick
Who sold some snake oil to the deathly sick
Who ordered much but never served a lick

Ulysses chained himself but not his crew
Their ears he stopped against the sounds that slew
And thus they rowed through waves and winds that grew
While he strove with the only gods he knew
So he could pass, yet hear their music, too

But our King George the Worst stays on the docks
And waves “goodbye” as troopships leave the locks
His motto: “After You!” no longer shocks
As he hires other men to tend his flocks
While carpetbagger cronies hump their stocks

Which leads us to Barack Obama, known
For making Dubya’s wars his very own
And adding to them others which have grown
(Through profligate employment of the drone)
Into the body-count and free-fire zone

Which our lost War on Southeast Asia taught
Us to regard as sure-fire proof of naught
But only bogus bullshit numbers fraught
With lies our “leaders” sold themselves, then bought
Which only left them on the hook and caught

So Dimwit Dubya has a dark-skinned clone:
Obama, whose failed wars have only shown
That no amount of more war can atone
For waging stupid murder from the throne
Of presidential twerp testosterone

A sorry solipsistic siren song
A darkness deeper than the night is long
In their mad minds no right can do a wrong
And fatal weakness only signals strong
A blind man would have seen it all along

Michael Murry, “The Misfortune Teller,” Copyright 2006-2015

Required Reading for those who think Common Sense and Common Humanity should Prevail in these Trying Times.


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via Aftermath–The Iran War After The Soleimani Assassination The Polemicist

With the US and Iran only in a PAUSE, still at the Brink of Armageddon/WWIII, why doesn’t the MSM talk up this RECENT, Unfolding History as a Major Influence for the whole unfolding Reality, that would make the Politicians and the People address the Facts?
Netanyahu to US Congress, September 12, 2002 ” If YOU take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I GUARANTEE YOU that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region, The reverberations of what will happen with the collapse of Saddam’s regime, could very well cause an implosion in a neighbor regime like Iran”
Americans and Iraqis lost many lives and treasure with the destruction of Netanyahu’s WAR against Saddam, and cannot make a claim on his GUARANTEE. Proved dead wrong the dead number over a MILLION PEOPLE, the consequences still unfolding in the World.Iran didn’t implode. It increased influence in it’s own part of the World with the illegal 2003 US invasion of Iraq.
The God of Israel didn’t listen to Netanyahu but Americans do.

Netanyahu spoke to a Joint Session of the US Congress in 2015, getting standing ovations by delirious, non-partisan, Republicans and Democrats, calling for the US to reject the Iran Nuclear deal.
Trump withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal on May 8, 2018.

What will be the consequences for the US Economic War Trump is waging against Iran for Netanyahu, designed to destroy the Iranian Economy supporting it’s 80 MILLION people before having to resort to bombs?
Designating Iran’s Military as a terrorist Organization at Netanyahu’s request brings dropping the bombs closer, and murdering such as High Official in the Iranian Government in the person of General Soleimani closer still.
Netanyahu was the only head of government to attend the February 2019, US organized, anti-Iran Foreign Ministers meeting in Warsaw, leading the charge for War with Iran.
Wasn’t Iraq enough? Will Americans be stupid enough to follow Netanyahu a 2nd Time, leading the US to War with Iran?
It appears under Trump/Kushner, kings in Israel, Americans are that Dumb!!!
war - spiritual death

IS THE END NEAR?


Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. Joel 3:14

Valley of Decision

The New York Times reports these decisions have been taken a long Time ago, when the US unilaterally abrogated nuclear arms limiting Treaties signed with the Soviet Union now that it no longer exists and it views Russia as weak. Absolutely, from the Russian perspective, they would have serious questions about the real US-NATO intentions, despite US soothing words.

In the world of Power, Pulpit and Pew this vision is still True from both the Old and New Testaments:

Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
For the LORD has poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and has closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers has he covered.
And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray you: and he says, I cannot; for it is sealed:
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray you: and he says, I am not learned.
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who sees us? and who knows us? Isaiah 29:9-15

You hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
This people draws close to me with their mouth, and honours me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matthew 15:7-9

Russia Calls New U.S. Missile Defense System a ‘Direct Threat’

MOSCOW — As American and allied officials celebrated the opening of a long-awaited missile defense system in Europe with a ribbon cutting and a band, the reaction in Russia on Thursday suggested the system had raised the risks of a nuclear war.

Russian officials reiterated their position that the American-built system imperiled Russia’s security. But the public discussion in Russia was darker, including online commentary of how a nuclear confrontation might play out in Europe, and the prospect that Romania, the system’s host, might be reduced to “smoking ruins.”

“We have been saying right from when this story started that our experts are convinced that the deployment of the ABM system poses a certain threat to the Russian Federation,” the Kremlin spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, told reporters in a conference call.

“Measures are being taken to ensure the necessary level of security for Russia,” he said. “The president himself, let me remind you, has repeatedly asked who the system will work against.”

The United States has asserted that the anti-ballistic missile system would protect only against “rogue” states, particularly Iran, and provide no protection for either Europe or the United States from Russia’s far larger arsenal of nuclear missiles. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization site will be controlled by an American officer.

The system, called Aegis Ashore, was essentially transferred from a seaborne launchpad onto land in Romania, at the Deveselu air base. The United States on Friday planned to break ground on a second site, in Poland, that should be completed in 2018. But a deputy United States defense secretary, Robert Work, reiterated Thursday there are “no plans at all” to strengthen this missile umbrella to protect against Russia.

In Moscow, the Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, said Russian defense experts consider the site a threat.

“We still view the destructive actions of the United States and its allies in the area of missile defense as a direct threat to global and regional security,” Ms. Zakharova said.

She said that the Aegis Ashore launchpad was “practically identical” to a system used aboard Aegis warships that is capable of launching Tomahawk cruise missiles.

While the United States says it has no Tomahawk missiles at the site in Romania, Russian officials say the launchpad violates a 1987 treaty intended to take the superpowers off their hair-trigger nuclear alert, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, by banning land-based cruise and medium-range missiles with a range from 300 to 3,400 miles.

The short flight time of these missiles diminished to mere minutes the window Soviet leaders would have had after a warning to decide whether to launch a second strike, raising the risks of mishaps. Any redeployment of nuclear-capable missiles in Central Europe would roll the clock back to this nerve-racking 1980s status quo.

“We have to announce this openly, without any additional diplomatic formulations,” Ms. Zakharova said of the Russian assertion the site violates the intermediate-range missile ban. “We are talking about violation of this treaty.”

President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has warned that an American antimissile deployment in Eastern Europe could prompt Russia to withdraw from the treaty. The United States last year accused Russia of violating the treaty by failing to declare the true range of two missile types.

Last fall, Russian security officials appeared to drop hints of another military response to the missile defense system — a nuclear-armed drone submarine. Russia, this leak appeared to say, has options.

During a high-level security meeting, a television camera zoomed in on an open binder showing the weapon’s design, ostensibly by accident.

The drone, according to easily decipherable text accompanying the design drawing, would be capable of carrying a large nuclear device into coastal waters and detonating it, touching off a radioactive tsunami to flood and contaminate seaside cities.

The submarine would “defeat important economic objects of an enemy in coastal zones, bringing guaranteed and unacceptable losses on the country’s territory by forming a wide area of radioactive contamination incompatible with conducting military, economic or any other activities there for a long period of time,” it said.

A Russian commentator, Konstantin Bogdanov, wrote on Lenta.ru, a news portal, that the antimissile sites in Eastern Europe might even accelerate the slippery slope to nuclear war in a crisis.

They would inevitably become priority targets in the event of nuclear war, possibly even targets for preventive strikes. Countries like Romania that host American antimissile systems might be the only casualties, he wrote, whereas the United States would then reconcile with Russia “over the smoking ruins of the East European elements of the missile defense system.”

The American spokesman saying this missile defence system is only for an imaginary  Middle Eastern Country having nukes and intercontinental missiles count on their own Western populations believing the Corporate owned news media propaganda, being unquestioning and dumb. It’s potentially a grave mistake to think the Russians are that dumb.

The range of these US-NATO Missiles would have to be at the borders of those rogue Middle Eastern Nations, not at the Russian border to be effective against missiles coming from there. The Truth and Reality is, the only Nation in The Middle East with nukes and the missiles with the capability to deliver them is Israel. The UN is not allowed to inspect Israel’s nuclear facilities and nuclear arsenal because it has not signed on to the NPT.

By any stretch of the imagination, it’s perfectly natural I should be following these trends more closely because of this Public record from 40 years ago.

The September 13, 1976 Kansas City Times records the warning of an “idea being put out subtly and deceptively” by the government that we have to get prepared for a war with Russia.”

The Revelation of the unfolding details and events reported by Today’s news media, indicate clearly and expressly, the TIME of the fulfillment of that prophecy is closer now than it was during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, and when the US and the Soviet Union were shouting at each other in Public in 1985. Now it is building up surreptitiously, behind the scenes, while the people are asleep or distracted.

The article from The New York Times above is one more confirming sign this world is at the precipice. The article below, with the picture and date, confirms the vision is in harmony with the Day. Kansas City Times, September 13, 1976 (2)

Sunday, May 15

Besides maintaining this Blog and my Public Face Book News Feed, I comment often in The Jerusalem Post, The Washington Post and many other online news outlets. Only CSIS and the NSA would know them all. Having the Time is part of  my retirement, approaching my 73rd Year May 21.

I made this comment this morning as it is related to the theme of this article:

From Cover to Cover The Bible is Anti-Empire by Rocket Kirchner

Rocket is a Musician and a Believer, so while I did not include the video appropriate in my mind to the themes, I can do that here between the lines. Enjoy!

Rocket, It’s hard for me to believe 40 years have passed since THE KANSAS CITY TIMES published this on September 13, 1976. It’s almost like being an Elton John Rocket Man on the way to the Revelation of Church of Philadelphia Freedom!

Ancient Babylon is the Bible’s starting model for Imperial Powers, the USA being the late, greatest of them all.

“He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November to do God’s bidding: To tell the world, from Kansas City, this country has been found wanting and its days are numbered […] He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said.”

These are the first two parts of the three part Writing On The Wall recorded in Daniel 5 during the Captivity of Babylon some 2600 years ago. It was not until 9/11 and 7 years later, with the Global Financial Meltdown-Economic Pearl Harbor-Tsunami in the Fall of 2008, the whole world was able to see the Writing on the Wall for the 1st Time at the same Time.

The third part of the Writing on the Wall speaks of the decline of the world’s dominant economic-military Imperial Super Power, and a rising Persia/Iran.

The US is the latest, greatest Nation to wear the Biblical Babylonian Imperial Mantle these last 2600 human years. Ancient Babylon was the 1st, and is now known as Iraq. The Tail struck the Head, and the consequences continue to this very Day!

THE KANSAS CITY TIMES also published this in that 1976 article:
He wanted to bring to the public’s attention an idea being put out “subtly and deceptively” by the government that “we have to get prepared for a war with Russia.”

The Revelation of the unfolding events reported by Today’s news media TODAY, indicate the TIME of the fulfillment of that prophecy is now at hand, unless saner heads prevail!

And to the angel of the Church in Philadelphia write; These things say he that is Holy, he that is True, he that has the key of David, he that opens, and no man shuts; and shuts, and no man opens;
I know your works: behold, I have set before you an open door, and no man can shut it: for you have a little strength, and have kept my word, and have not denied my name.
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Because you have kept the word of my Patience, I also will keep you from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which you have, that no man take your crown.
Him that overcomes will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Revelation 3:7-13

Searching for the right Elton John Philadelphia Freedom video just now, I found this one with the ringing bells, so appropriate for

PROCLAIM LIBERTY THROUGHOUT ALL THE LAND

posted to this Blog 5 years ago.